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Comedy Central’s hit sketch series Inside Amy Schumer, features sarcastic social commentaries that often revolve around sexuality and gender roles. In this particular clip from the premier of season 3, Schumer (mock) interviews Bailey Jay, a trans porn actress. Through the piece, Schumer draws attention to all the ways in which trans people are subjected to both rude and invasive questions that often objectify or dehumanize their status as actual people. In turn, Jay answers every question as though they are completely acceptable, laughing with Schumer about the bluntness of the questions, rather than correcting them.
Almost immediately, Schumer exclaims “You have a cock!” which sets the tone for the piece. As many trans people can confirm, the general (cisgender) society has an obsession with trans genitals. Further, Schumer brings up how it must have been difficult for Jay’s husband, a straight man, to have a relationship with a trans woman: “What was it like for you to sort of watch your husband enter this situation . . . I’m assuming he was just straight before.” This question reflects on the straight male fear of trans women, that trans women are trying to “trick” them, and the belief that a trans status conflicts with heterosexuality. However, something the piece does not address is Jay’s career as a porn star. Contrasting many segments where an interviewer will introduce their subject to the audience, Schumer very selectively omits Jay’s profession, her awards, etc. This omission further refines the aforementioned statement of fact, driving it away from any even remotely possible scenario in which talking about genitals is close to polite.
Schumer continues the interview with almost sarcastically asking Jay to answer every question that she hates answering. Jay responds with a lack of emotion, “I pee sitting down. I don’t use the men’s room.” Continuing with her purposefully ignorant interview, Schumer remarks on how gorgeous Jay is, giving nod to her ‘overcoming her trans status.’ But at the climax of the piece, we’re given the most awfully blunt question that could be asked: “Did you ever think about… snipping… off… your… [Jay laughs] penis?” Before she is given time to respond though, Schumer interrupts her and draws attention to herself, demonstrating how trans genitals exist as part of a public discourse rather than as a private matter.
This piece is complicated. On the one hand, it could be seen as a satire to the way that trans people, especially trans women, are usually addressed in interviews. It can be argued that the piece is satire because Jay was obviously prepared for all these questions and willing to bluntly answer them. In other interviews with trans women, such as Laverne Cox, Janet Mock, and Carmen Carrera, the interviewer has asked direct questions about genitalia but the women refused to answer and explained why such questions were problematic and offensive. In this way, the piece could also be considered somewhat educational as cis people can finally hear what they obviously want to hear. Additionally, Jay says that her life is not the sad trans life that often depicted in films, thus promoting a much needed positive trans experience.
On the other hand, the fact that the interview are very intrusive could be seen as an extension of the status quo. In some ways it supports the belief that the personal lives of transgender people should be open to the public. Talk of genitals and attractiveness furthers the sensationalization of trans women’s lives in ways that may not be productive.
According to Alexander Doty, queer is “a militant sense of difference that views the erotically ‘marginal’ as both . . . a consciously chosen ‘site of resistance’ and a ‘location of radical openness and possibility’” (There’s Something Queer Here, 430). He also describes a queer gender as “not fully subscribing to the straight ideological imperatives that define gender” (432). With this definition the interview can be read as queer in three different ways. First, to interview someone about being trans is to openly resist heteronormative narratives. To be trans is to break the prescribed path of sex = gender. Further, to be a trans porn star is to publicly embrace one’s erotic marginalization. In another sense, it is even queering the trans interview style, which usually is done in a very serious manner that depicts the hardships of being trans. However, it could also be argued that the piece is not queer at all in that it continues to publicize and sensationalize trans lives.
Questions:
1. Is the interview queer or is it promoting the status quo? What aspect of the interview contributes to its queerness or lack thereof? Whose definition of queer would you draw on?
2. Is the interview satirical, educational, offensive, or some combination? How do the lack of questions about Bailey Jay's porn career but rather questions about her lifestyle contribute to your opinion? How might the audience's opinion on the interview differ upon a queer or non-queer viewing?
3. Do you think cis society would benefit from more interviews done in this style or is a more serious style better?
What differences are possibly present between various interviewers' styles that limit what an audience can learn about a trans* individual? Can you think of any related interviews with a separate interview style?